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Taxes and the 401k Withdrawal

401k withdrawalIf you take a 401k withdrawal and the money in the 401k was deducted from your taxable income, you’ll be taxed on the funds you withdraw. Depending on the circumstances, you may also be subject to a penalty. There’s a lot of confusion about how the taxation works – and the taxation and penalties can be different depending upon the circumstances.

Taxation of the 401k Withdrawal

When you take a distribution of pre-tax money from a 401k plan, the amount of the 401k withdrawal that is pre-tax will be included in your income and will be taxed at your marginal income tax rate in that year.

Unless you meet one of the exceptions noted in the article 16 Ways to Withdraw Money From Your 401k Without Penalty, your 401k withdrawal will also be subject to a 10% early withdrawal penalty.

For example – if you have a 401k plan at a former employer and you are 45 years of age, unless your 401k withdrawal meets one of the exceptions, taxation would work like this for a $50,000 401k withdrawal:

Taxable Income before withdrawal $60,000
Tax (assumes MFJ) $8,072.50
Effective Tax Rate 13.45%
401k Withdrawal $50,000
Other taxable income $60,000
Total taxable income $110,000
Tax (assumes MFJ) $23,836.75
Effective Tax Rate 21.67%
Penalty (10%) $5,000
Total Tax and Penalty $28,836.75
Total Effective Tax Rate 26.22%

Nothing really dramatic about the first part, it’s just more taxable income and you’ve likely grown to understand the effect of the graduated tax schedule. But what will likely open your eyes is the fact that this $50,000 was actually taxed at a rate of 41.53%! Your 401k withdrawal of $50,000 resulted in $20,764.25 in taxes and penalties, so in effect you only “net” $29.235.75 from this withdrawal. Almost makes a payday loan look cheap by comparison.

On the other hand, if you met one of the exceptions (such as being age 59½ or older, the penalty would not apply. The effective tax rate on the 401k withdrawal is 10% less, at only 31.53%.

Mandatory Withholding

Another thing you need to understand about your 401k withdrawal is the mandatory withholding. Unless your 401k withdrawal is a direct rollover to another plan (such as an IRA), part of a Series of Substantially Equal Periodic Payments (SOSEPP, or 72t option), is a Required Minimum Distribution or a hardship distribution, there is a requirement for the administrator to withhold 20% from the 401k withdrawal.

This 20% is sent to the IRS and will be included as part of your withholding and estimated tax payments that will apply against your tax when you file. If the withholding was too much, you’ll get a refund of the extra withholding, just as you do from extra withholding or estimated payments.

Here’s a continuation of the previous example to illustrate withholding:

401k Withdrawal $50,000
Mandatory Withholding (20%) $10,000
Other Withholding (from W4 wages) $9,000
Total Withholding $19,000
Total Tax and Penalty (from prior) $28,836.75
Amount You Owe $9,836.75

As you can see, even though the mandatory withholding from the 401k withdrawal is substantial, it’s not enough in many cases to cover the tax and penalties from the withdrawal.

98 Comments

  1. G Lizza says:

    I will be 72 at the end of this year. I am concerned about the volatility of the markets and have lost quite a bit of money over the past 3 years. I am thinking about liquidating one of my smaller 401Ks. there is 45k in it as of last week. How much tax will I have to pay if I take all of that out and close the account. I receive social security and have retirement pay from my AF retirement and my Civil Service retirement.

    1. jblankenship says:

      The amount of tax on your withdrawal will be dependent on your overall income reported on the tax return. So, if you know approximately what your other taxable income will be for the year, add the amount of the withdrawal to it, and calculate the tax based on the new taxable amount. Pay attention to the potential for increased taxable Social Security if your overall income is relatively low, as taking a lump sum distribution could increase this.

  2. William smouse says:

    I’m 74 and considering withdrawal of my 401. So as I understand, any amount I withdraw, for any reason, will be taxable. Period.

    1. jblankenship says:

      That’s the most likely situation. If you had no non-deducted contributions to your account, any withdrawals will be taxable as ordinary income.

  3. Phillip Sharp says:

    Thank you for this article. I am 46 and have around $60K in my 401K. I have some family emergencies that have come up and I need around $30K. I am 100% vested in my 401K – it is through my former employer and my current employer does not offer a 401K. That being said, can you let me know my best options to pull out money? I need at least $15K but really would like to get $30K. Can you give me costs for each scenario? Thank you in advance…

    1. jblankenship says:

      Without knowing the rest of the information in your tax return I can’t give you the tax costs. Definitely there will be the 10% cost (unless you meet one of the exceptions), and then the amount of your withdrawal will be added to your other ordinary income to determine the overall tax.

  4. Doug Meine says:

    I am 70;years old and I am considering cashing out my 401k. I am and will be in the future in the highest tax bracket which is 37%. I’m doing it because I feel the tax rates in the future will continue to go up.

    1. jblankenship says:

      Depending on the amount of the 401(k) plan, you might want to consider converting at least a portion of it to Roth. If you’re planning to pay the taxes anyhow, this way (in a Roth) your future growth on the converted amount would be tax-free. It’s certainly worth considering.

  5. Maria says:

    Hi, I’m going to withdraw my 401k as I will be moving abroad. Due to the Covid-19 situation I have only ended up only being in the US for about 10 days during current tax year, so I am being told there is a possibility that I might not have to pay federal taxes this year. In such a scenario how would the tax on my 401k withdrawal be calculated? (With the additional 10% penalty of course) would it be taken into account as if the total 401k amount were my only income for the year, and would that be the deciding factor fro my tax bracket? Or should I wait for next year to withdraw?

    1. jblankenship says:

      If you have no other taxable income in the US, then the 401(k) withdrawal will be all that shows up on your return. This could be very advantageous to you, as the first $12,000 (if single) will be untaxed because of the standard deduction if you’re allowed to claim that. That amount would still be subject to the 10% penalty as you noted.

  6. E. Norton says:

    A retired 73 year old relative is selling current home and purchasing another home. He withdrew $400,000 from his 401K to purchase 2nd home with the intention of paying 401K back within 60 days after sale of original home (based on advice that a new home offer would be looked on more favorably if he had cash on hand). He quickly got and accepted a bid on original home but now, due to heavy activity in housing market, the closing (on original home) may not happen until after the 60 days (Nov. 12). Does he have any options other than paying a hefty tax charge for his 401K withdrawl if the 60 day limit passes? Thanks

    1. jblankenship says:

      IRS won’t give any sympathy to the situation, because it’s a short-term loan, which has been expressly discouraged, no exceptions.

      If the individual can get a mortgage (or some other short-term financing) for the $400k in order to pay back (rollover) the 401k funds, that’s the only suggestion I can come up with.

  7. Glenn says:

    Can I take $100,000 out of my 401(k) and give it to my investor with no taxes or penalty i’m 58 1/2

    1. jblankenship says:

      If you’re no longer employed by the employer (with the 401(k) plan), you may be able to rollover this money to an IRA without taxes or penalty. Otherwise, if it’s not going into an IRA, there will be taxes and penalty. Also, if you’re still employed there, you usually can’t make distributions from the plan until you’re at least age 59 1/2 – and this is up to the plan administrator.

  8. Pat says:

    I am 67 years old I have a tiny 401 k with a company I just started with. It is with fidelity . I only have my company match of 5 percent. The remainder is not invested. I needed to withdraw 500.00 but they said fidelity that 20bpercent would be taken out now as a tax penalty and then I had to claim it as income and be taxed again . So I am actually loosing why would I be charged no the20 percent when I am well past retirement age

    1. jblankenship says:

      Unless I’m mistaken, you aren’t “charged” 20%, there is 20% withheld for taxes. This is the same as withholding on your paycheck. When you file your tax return for 2020, you’ll claim the $500 withdrawal as income, and you’ll also indicate the 20% ($100) withheld for tax purposes.

      If Fidelity is actually charging you 20% to take your own money, I could see you having a major problem with it – but I suspect it’s just as I described.

  9. Justin T. says:

    Hello I am 25, I saved $3,500 in my 401k… I now need the money due to leaving the job and a loan i took out that needs to be paid down…What kind of penalites am i looking at friend to withdraw the whole $3,500?

    1. jblankenship says:

      If you have left the job you would be eligible to withdraw the full amount, with a 10% penalty on the withdrawal. Plus you will owe income tax on the withdrawal – at whatever your income tax bracket is. This $3,500 would be added to your income for the year and taxed just like all of your other earnings, plus the 10% penalty on top.

  10. Bryon Jensen says:

    Hello, I am going to be 55 years old this year. I have 300K in my 401k. I am going to be leaving my job this year because of health reasons. I know that I should be good with taking out my 401K money without penalties because of the ” Rule of 55″. Is there something that I could put my money into that I can get payment installments to keep from paying taxes on the full 300K?

    1. jblankenship says:

      Depending upon your employer plan’s rules, you may be able to take annual amounts from the plan, thereby only taxed on each amount in the year you withdraw.

      If this is not available and your employer plan’s rules require only a one-time withdrawal, there’s no way to avoid taxation on the full amount that you withdraw. If you rollover an amount into an IRA, the age 55 rule no longer applies to your money in that account.

  11. Jonathan Lyon says:

    Feeling desperate, frustrated, and on the brink of checking out.
    I am 42 yrs old, recent job loss as a Physical Therapist and am being forced to change fields. Currently looking for work. Job prospects in my current city of Seattle will be between $40,000 – $50,000 per year. I screwed myself years ago by going to Grad school, which cost me $90,000 for a field that does not pay well. I currently owe $43,000 at 5.5% interest rate scheduled over the next 7 years.
    I have $39,000 in a 401k that does not perform well (Merrill Lynch managed).
    I have $5,000 in the bank and a monthly rent and utilities lease that costs me about $1500 per month in the winter.

    I a seriously thinking about checking out. Seems like I have no hopes to ever be financially independent. I am considering cashing out the 401k to pay down my loans, because let’s face it – 39,000 isn’t going to do much for me. Another option is to gamble in the stock market, but I don’t know what i am doing so I will likely lose it all anyway.
    How can I best use this money to my advantage with a goal of being debt free in 12 months.

    1. jblankenship says:

      The only way to get yourself out of this situation is to figure out ways to increase your income and/or reduce your expenses. It might mean selling some things, finding an alternative housing situation, or taking on additional work part-time. But it’s not hopeless, I’ve heard of other situations worse than yours, where the individual figured out a way to resolve the problems and work their way out of debt. You can do this, it’s been done before!

  12. Scott Paul says:

    Good day Jim. I am currently 48 years old with 1 million dollars split between my military TSP and my 401k from my civilian job. I’ll be retired from the military (USAF Reserves) at the end of Dec. 2017 and will start collecting my pension of approx $2500 (pre-tax) at age 57.5. I’ll also be leaving my civilian job in July, 2018 and am not planning on working, unless I get too bored! My plan was to roll over both plans to a Vanguard plan and start withdrawing money in Jan of 2019,(I’ll be 50) using 72(t) guidelines. Any thoughts?

    1. jblankenship says:

      Sounds like a workable plan to me – the 72(t) rules might be a hassle over time for you, but you should be able to use that for your purposes. Just keep in mind that you’ll need to collect the 72(t) payments all the way to age 59 1/2 (even though you’re starting the pension at age 57 1/2 and may not need as much from the IRA).

  13. DebD says:

    I have a question for you. I am 65 yrs told and when my husband passed 5 years ago, I was the beneficiary on his 401K. I have not touched it. I retired 10 years ago. I already own a home F & C, but want to move. My intention is to take half of that IRA distribution in Dec (per my tax advisor, taking a 35% tax out), so I don’t have to file a quarterly tax estimate. I want the additional dollars to buy a home in another state. I also want to take the other half out in January of 2018, so I have money for the move. Do you see any issues with this plan of action?

    1. jblankenship says:

      I don’t think there’s anything intrinsically wrong with your plan. Of course I know nothing about your overall situation beyond what you’ve provided, so my understanding of the situation is very limited.

  14. Jerry C says:

    I’m 58 1/2 and will be ending my employment. I need to pay off my mortgage (83k)and about 50k in debt. I have 191k in a 401k and a 19k loan. How best can I use my 401k to pay things off?

    1. jblankenship says:

      You should be able to withdraw money upon ending your employment without penalty. There will be income tax on the distribution (including the loan, which will be considered a distribution).

    2. Jerry C says:

      Would I have to make a full withdrawal (all 191k) or could I take out a portion each year? I’m thinking this might be more tax advantageous?

      1. jblankenship says:

        No, it’s not required by law for you to take the full amount out. However, your plan administrator may have limits on your withdrawals. For example, they may only allow a lump-sum full distribution instead of multiple small withdrawals. In that case, you would take whatever you need in cash and then rollover the remainder to an IRA, lessening the tax impact by transferring the income to a future year.

        1. joan vassall says:

          I will be 60 yrs old in Feb. 2018 currently employed. I have $493K in my 401K and would like to withdraw from my 401K $65K to purchase a home in the Caribbean. I currently earned $73K. Please advise how to go about this, any tax penalty or how much tax will I need to pay, do I talk with HR. Any advise is greatly appreciated.

          1. jblankenship says:

            You should talk to your HR department. They’ll likely direct you to the 401k administrator. If your plan allows “in-service” withdrawals, you could be allowed to make this withdrawal while still employed – but not all plans allow in-service withdrawals, so be prepared for that. You may need to leave employment before you can take the withdrawal.

            At your current age (greater than 59 years, 6 months) you will not have any penalties applied to the withdrawal. You will pay ordinary income tax on the amount withdrawn in the year that you withdraw the money.

  15. Harry Greene says:

    I am will retire at the age of 62 and plan on cashing in my 401K which will be close to 58,000.00. How much will my taxes and penalties be. I will retire in November 2017 but will wait until the first of the year 2018 to cash in my 401k. At that time the only income I will receive will be my military and Social security.

    1. jblankenship says:

      There should be no penalties on your withdrawal, as you are over age 59 1/2. The taxes will be ordinary income tax, so you’d just add the amount of the withdrawal to your other income and work out the taxes based on that overall income.

      1. Brian Markwalter says:

        If I role over a $70,000 pension lump sum distribution into an IRA, could I then take a withdrawal from the IRA without incurring the immediate 20% withholding and then include the IRA distribution as income when I file my tax return.

        1. jblankenship says:

          Yes, you could do that.

  16. E says:

    I lost my job due to. Ring in a accident and can’t work anymore. So if I was to get my 401k out at age 54 hour much taxes and penalty I would have to pay? Also if I wait till I get my disability and get it out will that make a difference in how much I would have to pay?

    1. jblankenship says:

      If you’re considered disabled you may be able to withdraw money without the 10% penalty. Otherwise, you’ll need to pay regular taxes on the withdrawal. The amount of tax would be determined by adding the amount of the withdrawal to your other income for the year and applying your tax rates to the total (after deductions and exemptions). Talk to your 401k administrator to help you understand if the penalty will apply to your situation.

  17. E says:

    If i want to withdraw my money from my 401k and I’m 54 how much penalty and race would I have to pay?

  18. Sandra says:

    I’m 44 I quit and am jobless, I felt like I had to empty my 401k due to no credit. I had around 39000. I received 29000 after withholding the first part. How much should I set aside for taxes at end of year. I thought voya was taking out 15% and I would just have to pay 10% at end of the year.

    1. jblankenship says:

      That’s going to depend on your overall income for the year. You’ll need to add your other income to the total 401k withdrawal and calculate the tax requirement from there. Don’t forget that you’ll also owe 10% penalty ($3,900) on the 401k early withdrawal.

  19. JC says:

    I’m 61 and getting ready to withdraw $50K. I’m aware of the 20% mandatory penalty but what will be the additional taxes and when do they have to be paid?

    1. jblankenship says:

      The 20% you’re referring to is not a penalty – it is withheld to cover the potential taxes. When you take a withdrawal from your 401k you must add the withdrawal amount (the gross amount, including the withheld 20%) to your other income for the year. That will determine how much tax you will owe. If it’s more than the 20% withheld, you must pay additional; if it’s less, you’ll get a refund.

      Since you’re over age 59 1/2 there are no penalties on the withdrawal.

  20. M Gupta says:

    I am expat and contributing to 401K and plan to go back early next year Jan/Feb 2018. My taxable income will be negligible in 2018. Can I withdraw my 401K as I understand my tax bracket will low. Pls confirm. Also will I have to pay the 10% penalty as I will be moving back to my home country and will not be returning.

    1. jblankenship says:

      Yes, you can withdraw your funds – but some (or all) of the matching funds from your employer may not be available to you if you’ve only been employed by this employer for a short time. You will be taxed on the withdrawal, but if you have no other US income for the year you might get away without tax on the funds (at the very least, low tax). There will be the 10% penalty unless you meet one of the exceptions.

  21. Cee Jay says:

    Hi Mr. Blankenship. I was injured at work, receiving workers comp until recently. I cannot work and need money for bills, etc,. Can I withdraw from my 401k? I am 50 years old with no income right now. Thank you!

    1. jblankenship says:

      It’s going to be up to your 401k administrator. If you’re disabled, this is a possible exception against the penalty, but you’d still owe the tax. See the article 16 Ways to Withdraw Money From Your 401k Without Penalty for more exceptions.

  22. Ron Hopkins says:

    I am 71 and 7months, still working and contributing to my 401 (about 30,000), do I have to withdraw funds now since I am still working and contributing?

    1. jblankenship says:

      Not if you’re still working as of the end of this calendar year, as long as you’re not a 5% or more owner of the business that you work for.

  23. Thomas Brown says:

    I am 61 years old and still employed by the same company. Can I withdraw my entire amount ? I am buried in credit card debt and want to pay it off.

    1. jblankenship says:

      That’s a question for your plan administrator. If I had to guess I would say it’s unlikely – but ask them, you may find out differently.

  24. Freeman says:

    Do you have to meet certain criteria to pull money from a 401k plan if you still work for the company the plan is with?

    1. jblankenship says:

      Yes, your 401k administrator should have the details for you.

  25. Marcia says:

    My brother is currently incarcerated and I (I have power of attorney) need to encase his 401k, how do I go about doing same?

    1. jblankenship says:

      I don’t know what you mean by “encase his 401k”. If you can provide more details I’ll try to help.

  26. Ethel Bernal says:

    I have recently gotten laid off from my job. I am 56 years old. In order to make ends meet I will need to withdraw a portion from my 401k. My plan does not allow withdrawl so I will need to roll it over. My question is, can I withdraw a portion of it to pay bills and roll over the remaining amount?

    1. jblankenship says:

      Yes, that’s perfectly acceptable. Taking the withdrawal before it’s rolled over will allow you to avoid the penalty for early (pre 59 1/2) withdrawal as well.

      1. Bryan W says:

        Really? Does he avoid the penalty because he was laid off? I have the same situation and am planning to withdraw all but $5500 (annual max contribution to Roth IRA). Does this mean 20% but no penalty?

        1. jblankenship says:

          The reason for leaving the job isn’t important – layoff, retirement, etc., all work for that exception to the penalty, as long as you are age 55 or older when you leave the job.

  27. Joshua says:

    Is it normal to be penalized more than the amount you had? I’m 31 and only just started 401k last year. I had 200 in it. Now on my taxes they are penalizing me 400. Is this normal? I switched jobs in August and at my new job I had to wait until the new year to enroll and with only 200 in there the former job didn’t give me any other option but to cash it out.

    1. jblankenship says:

      That doesn’t sound right – but without looking at your tax return I can’t say for sure what is happening. The penalty should only be 10% of the amount withdrawn. There would be tax on the amount withdrawn as well, but that would be at your normal tax rate, still nothing that could double your penalty/tax.

      1. Joshua says:

        That’s what I thought. A relative does my taxes and they used 2 different sites and both came back the same. Would you recommend I take it for review? She just submitted them yesterday.

        1. jblankenship says:

          Yes, I think it makes sense to have someone look over your documents and the return to make sure it’s all done properly.

  28. Bill Clinton says:

    My wife will quit her job this year. She has a 401k With Principal. She also turns 55 this year. Principal is pushing us to rollover her 401k into one of their managed accounts. If I understand it right if we do that we no longer can access here 401k without paying the 10% penalty until she turns 59 1/2? Even though we have no plans for the money I still do not want to lock it up for 4 years. If I understand it right I want to leave her money with Principal and I can access it without the 10% penalty and once she turns 59.5 we can do whatever we want with it?

    1. jblankenship says:

      That’s correct.

  29. Bryan B says:

    I am under the understanding that I can get a hardship withdraw for a down payment on a home as my primary residence. I am a first time home buyer. Does this exclude me from the 10% penalty? I am under 59 1/2. Also, can I split the disbursement? 1/2 loan and 1/2 withdraw?

    1. jblankenship says:

      These are questions for you to ask your 401k administrator.

      Generally a withdrawal from a 401k for home purchase is not one of the exceptions to the 10% penalty.

  30. joe says:

    I am 57, unemployed, and want to start withdrawing from my 401k using SOSEPP. do I need to withdraw for 5 years, or is SOSEPP no longer binding once I reach 59 and a half

    1. jblankenship says:

      Once you start a SOSEPP you must continue it for the longer of 5 years or until you reach age 59 1/2. So in your case it would be five years.

      Did you leave the employer on or after your 55th year? If so, you should have access to the funds without penalty and without the restrictions of a SOSEPP.

  31. daiquan Hall says:

    I need to borrow $875.00 from my 401k , how much would i have to owe back?

    1. jblankenship says:

      That depends on the interest rate and how long you stretch out your payback. Talk to your 401k administrator to get more information.

  32. Katie Martinez says:

    Hi, I am 591/2 years old. I recently left my job and would like to begin withdrawing from my 403b plan. My advisor at the company where I have my money says that I have to pay a 20% fund tax on any money that I take out. Is that correct? Why can’t I just take the money out and count it as income when I file taxes and pay any taxes I owe then? Thanks, Katie

    1. jblankenship says:

      The 20% withholding is a hard and fast rule. You could avoid that requirement by rolling over your 403b plan into an IRA, and then you can take distributions from the IRA with no withholding (or any amount of withholding you deem to be appropriate).

  33. Liz says:

    I currently have over 40,000 in retirement account from a previous job. I want to take a portion out and put the other portion in a IRA. I’m under 59, and wanted to know the best route to take to avoid major penalties. I really need some of my money but not all of it. I was going to take some and invest it into a small business. I also have a retirement account at my new job. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

    1. jblankenship says:

      If you meet one of the exceptions (see this article for details) then you may avoid the penalty on your withdrawal or a portion of the withdrawal.

  34. micki says:

    hi im 60 years old i want to use my 401k to buy a house i earn 60000 a year and my 401k is 60000 what do i need to do and what would i pay on that tax or any penalties

    1. jblankenship says:

      You need to ask your 401k administrator how you can access the funds. Regarding the tax, any amount that you withdraw from the account will be taxed as ordinary income – added to your other earnings for the year. Since you’re over age 59 1/2, there would not be any penalty on the withdrawal.

  35. ManZaar says:

    I am getting ready to move from one job to another. I have 17K in my 401K and I have an outstanding loan of $4500. I would like to move my money to an IRA account just before/after I leave my current company while taking about 5K in cash to assist in some financial hardships. What would the best option be to avoid fees & penalties? Will the will I be taxed as income on both the $4500 loan & $5K withdrawal? I wonder how hard that hit would be…

    -Washington State resident, 25 years old.

    1. jblankenship says:

      Unless you meet one of the exceptions, you will owe 10% penalty ($950) plus ordinary income tax on the $9,500 – your loan plus the withdrawal – at whatever your income tax rate is.

  36. david says:

    hi, how about if am no longer a US resident, do i still have to pay penalty and taxes on it? thank you

  37. Tula Fox says:

    Hello,
    I am a first time buyer and I would like to use my 401k savings as down payment. Doing little research, I’ve found contradicting information. Some say, no penalties or taxes are due when using for a down payment on a home for a first time buyer, other say 10% taxes and other taxes,etc..
    I am 38, so I do not qualify for any age exemptions.

    Thanks!

    1. Tula Fox says:

      So, the question is: What would be correct? no penalties or taxes(exempt) because I am a first time buyer, or the usual penaties and taxes?

    2. jblankenship says:

      401k funds are not allowed an exemption from penalties for first-time home purchase. If you are no longer working for the company you could rollover your 401k account to an IRA, and then use the first-time homebuyer exemption for a withdrawal. Either way there will be taxes to pay – and if you don’t qualify for an exemption you will also owe the 10% penalty.

  38. MVH says:

    Hi – I am planning to quit my present job to start a small business. My 401K has about $35,000 and my 401K loan has about $5,000 balance left. I am in Utah. what would my estimated taxes and penalty be if I withdrew all of the amount in the 401K?

    1. jblankenship says:

      If you’re under age 59 1/2 you’ll have a penalty of 10% plus whatever additional tax is calculated. To find the amount of tax you would add the amount of the withdrawal to your ordinary income and figure the tax.

  39. Esetel says:

    I recently fell on hard times after having a major illness. My mother recently retired and wants to help me out by giving me the $20,000 from her 401k; however I know there are heavy penalties that comes with that. However; instead of crawling into more debt I’m wondering if this is this is the better option along with repaying my mother back all the money with all the fees. Could you give me an idea of what fees I will be facing.
    She is 60 years old and roughly have 750,000 in her 401k

    1. jblankenship says:

      It’s not a bad idea – there would not be any penalties for your mother withdrawing funds from her 401k. She’s over age 59 1/2 and has retired from her job. There will be taxes on the withdrawal, but how much depends on your mother’s other income. You could calculate what the tax increase is from the withdrawal and add that amount to the amount that you will pay her back – that would be the “upright” thing to do, since the withdrawal has cost her extra taxes.

      This option is better than some other options, such as payday loans, credit card debt and the like.

    2. Fred Iverson says:

      I have almost the same question. I would like to cash in one of my 401k plans that has about $96,000 in it to give to my daughter for her to pay on the principal on her house. I am 68 and on social security which I get about $3800 monthly. Question: How much would I have to pay in taxes if I cashed in the 401K and would it put me in a higher tax bracket?

      1. jblankenship says:

        I’d need to see your tax return, along with your projected full income for the year in question, to be able to give you an accurate answer.

        In addition to the initial tax on the withdrawal, you want to keep an eye on your overall income as it relates to the Medicare Part B & D IRMAA penalties, if you were to make the large withdrawal in one tax year. It might be better to split it between two tax years to alleviate this possibility.

  40. Dee McNealy says:

    I work for a small company. Doing a loan from my 401k is not an option. I would like to take 5000.00 from my 401k. I have 45,000.00 in my 401k now. I am single with no dependents and have always gotten a refund on my taxes. Can you give me an idea of what I would be facing?

    1. jblankenship says:

      If you’re still working for the company and under age 59.5 it’s likely that you will not be allowed to take a withdrawal. If you somehow qualify for a withdrawal you can expect to pay ordinary income tax and 10% penalty on the withdrawal. If your ordinary income tax is 25% for example, the taxes and penalties would amount to $1,750.

  41. michelle says:

    i am 30 years old and i have a 401k plan with my old company i no longer work for and going through hard times trying to buy a house can i withdraw my money if i havent worked for them in 5 years ? and how do i look into it i dont even know where to being i really forgot all about it until i was just sent papers on it thank you

    1. sraskie says:

      Hi Michelle,

      The answer to your question is yes. However, carefully consider the tax consequences. If you take the money from your old 401k, you will have to pay ordinary income taxes AND an additional 10% penalty since you are under age 59.5.

  42. N. Woods says:

    My company closed and I have a $30,000 401k to consider on what I should do with. My husband had major surgery earlier this year, which we have paid most of the bills however due to this surgery he was out of work for 4 1/2 months causing a large debt of just living expenses. Can you roll part of your 401k into an IRA and take a tax hit on only part of your money? Something else I was considering is that I have an eleven year old and would like to put a 1/3 into a college fund.

    1. jblankenship says:

      Yes, you can rollover part of the 401k and take part out in cash. You will owe tax on the part taken in cash, and if you’re under 59 1/2 years of age and you do not meet one of the criteria for an exception, you will also have a 10% penalty for early withdrawal on the cashed out portion.

  43. Steven Wassner says:

    I am not clear on one aspect. I believe that even after I retire I can still transfer money from my 401K to a Roth IRA and of course, that money will be taxed. My question is, will that transfer be counted as part of my minimum distribution? In other words, can I take money from a 401k that I don’t need for living expenses pay tax on it and roll it over into a Roth IRA that can sit for years without necessitating a withdrawal?

    1. jblankenship says:

      Unfortunately, no. RMD funds cannot be rolled over or converted into any other IRA account, including Roth IRA.

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